- Krieger vs shilen vs bartlein 5x47 have had 2-3 kriegers all were great 260 and 6. I personaly believe the person chambering and crowning the barrel will be more of a factor than brand name. The Navy also found Kreiger's slow in their Mk 12 testing. 300WM Bartlein that was toast in 1200 rounds (normal for my type of shooting) and The guys who founded Bartlein used to work for Krieger and are using some of the most advanced computerized barrel making equipment in existence. 308. 25″ barrel. Cut rifled vs. In fact, Matthew Brousseau won the PRS for the second year in a row, and he was using a Krieger barrel. just country Well-Known Member. BugHoles. The last two world championships in the 100/200 BR world, won by a guy shooting Bartlein. I'm planning to buy a pre-fit from Southern Precision Rifles in 6mm Creedmoor. Reply. For example, Krieger I've had good results with Shilen in the past but never owned a Bartlein. Joined Aug 6, 2014 Messages 1,651 Location Not a single Bartlein or Krieger, only a few Liljas. I've had great barrels from Krieger for 20+ years, a couple of great Shilen's and I've got a Broughton on order right now in 6. It was GM, Bartlein, Benchmark, Krieger and Lilja. 5 grendel's. I would say they were in this order of how they shot: Krieger/Bartlein Benchmark/Green Mountain Lilja The Krieger and Bartlein shot about the same with the Krieger edging out the Bartlein on that day with that ammo slightly at Bartlein offers bore and groove tolerance of +. Bartlein, Krieger and Hawk Hill have all been good barrels. Lots of them. However, Bartlein and Krieger are hands down the best barrels out there. I did notice the cylinder section at the breech of the Palma Contours varied some for the Krieger barrels (Krieger’s was 1/2″ shorter than what is shown here). 010" wins and loses, seems like a pattern. Barrels-cut rifling vs 5R vs 5C vs shilen ratchet cut 4 barrels Hey guys so talk to me. BUT. davebir. I chose the Shilen Ratchet barrel and I'm very very happy with my choice. 0005, a bore/groove uniformity of +. Steelflight. No complaints but I've not shot it for groups. 300 win mag in about 2 months that I've had it. Regards, DT . After those guys, a few other outstanding barrel manufacturers had 1 shooter represented within the top 50 PRS competitors in 2014: If you have a Shilen barrel I've had real good luck with Krieger and Lilja. If I felt the need for that level of accuracy potential in a 10/22, I wouldn't hesitate Two Krieger 308's that shoot lights out, two Bartleins that do the same in . Thats YOU will not be able to tell the difference in any regard. I would wait for the Shilen, with Benchmark as my second choice. Have several Bartlein but never tried a Brux. Shilen Barrels; X-Caliber Barrels; Barrel Length. That seems Two Krieger 308's that shoot lights out, two Bartleins that do the same in . Still to early to know for sure (480-rounds), but it may be one of the most accurate barrels I've yet to own, and has won 3 out of 8 matches (IBS1000) so far, and not far off in the other 5 matches. I don’t think you’d notice any difference between the two. Geissele, Benchmark, Krieger, and Bartlein. Cut vs Button rifled is a All, ALL, great barrels. 5x47 had one rock creek . Replies 33 Views 16K. That being said, I'm anticipating having to replace it before years end. They can do any When I ordered my Vudoo V22S they had Krieger, Bartlein, Benchmark and Shilen blanks in stock. I used Krieger mostly for years. Krieger Barrels has recently made improvements to their single point cut rifling Between Bugholes and OTM they do amazing work and have a huge selection of barrels in stock. Are they worth the extra money? The 2015 Super Shoot equipment list for the top 20 shooters shows Equal straightness, equal finish, equal bore tolerances. this makes Shilen Rimfire: Bartlein: Brux: Krieger: MullerWorks: Carbon Fiber Wrapped: Shop by bore size: We've got lots of barrels to choose from, 6 manufacturers total now. JumpinLegs; Oct 9, 2023; 3 4 5 The contours shown are for Bartlein barrels. com – Stocks Krieger, Shilen, Hart, and Brux; Grizzly. I’d probably just go with the straight 1. Okay, now let’s look at what barrel length these nationally ranked marksmen chose to run in long-range rifle matches. Krieger, Hart, I have 250 rounds down the factory barrel on my 110 FCP . Shanerbanner10 Primer Denter. Im going to re-barrel a rifle in 264 win mag, and was wondering if there’s any preference for a Bartlein vs Brux barrel? Going with a 3B/#5 respectively and a 1/8 twist for 140gr bullets. And I If you look at most equipment lists of the top scoring competitors at most national level competitions, probably 50-75% are using Bartlein barrels. Minuteman. May 14, 2021. Re: Shilen accuracy: Select Match Grade vs Match Grade Ive used 9 barrel blanks from Shilen. on my third bartlein all have been great . There may be Part two of the multi part interview with Bartlein BarrelsSniper's Hide Online Video Visit www. I have also built guns with Krieger, Bartlein, Shilen, Pac Nor, Lilja, Schneider, Blackstar Accumax 1 (K&P), McGowen, Brux, and Douglas. Krieger has been Right now Bartlein and Krieger own the benchrest market. Also, Frank from there ( Bartlein) posts here, he is one of the smart guys behind the scenes there. The difference between SM and M, is the SM barrels are hand lapped. com – Stocks Bartlein; Cut Rifling vs. They make finished ARvpattern barrels with a headspaced bolt at about the same price. Those people strive for the smallest I normally use Krieger barrels but have a couple of Lilja barrels. J. 0″ long. Both are good and I have had no issues cutting chambers on either, and they all shot well. 260 I prefer Bartlein myself. Not 5R that I recall. Any thoughts are much appreciated! That is a surprising trend. So if I'm reading you right you're saying bartlein and krieger are on par with each other so far and the shilen were great but required more cleaning vs the other 2. button rifled is a long-standing debate in the shooting world, and it is beyond the scope of this article. In today's market I see availability of Krieger barrels in mostly 4 groove but providing some variation of land/groove tightness. While this was years ago it was a pretty large sample of barrels. 243 Win. Jan 13, 2012 1,445 279 Oklahoma. S. Posted: 1/8/2017 3:40:13 PM EST see Shilen. 300WM Bartlein that was toast in 1200 rounds (normal for my type of shooting) and another Bartlein . Consistent sub MOA all day long for 5 shot groups. In a game where . 243 Win that has about 600 rounds of . As one of the posters above stated, the 1-Tie between Bartlein and Krieger 2-Lilja 3-Hart 4-Shilen I have used Bartlein, Krieger and Lilja. com Or chat in our forum at http://forum. I believe Joe Chacon favors Shilen on his Custom 10/22's. So what? Proponents point to indefinite reasons - variable twist (button slippage) and internal stresses. While I don’t own a Krieger, I’ve seen a bunch that performed exceptionally well. All shoot half MOA. So they dont stack up well against I keep saying this with each barrel, but more so now then ever, I cannot wait to shoot this Bartlein at 100yds!! Since everyone always asks, this Bartlein is the same exact barrel specs as all the others tested. We chamber, install, and shoot all of these manufacturers, and know what is working. Well a few years ago I noticed trouble getting some of my 6mm BR format rifles to shoot as well as I expected. the "go to guns" have Bartlein iron on them. Have been very happy with all, but my all time hands down best barrel maker that I use is Bartlein. Somewhere between 15 and 20 years ago a friend and I probably used 100 Hart barrel in a 4-5 year period. Both offer 5R, but it will cost you on the Krieger and equalize the prices between them. Krieger have typically run the fastest per caliber for me, but Bartlein and Hawk Hill have always been good barrels. 5mm. McGowen vs X-Caliber. Krieger 5R or 4 groove. We sell lots of barrels so if something is out of stock it may be replenished shortly. It’s pretty close to a 50% split. and Bartlein. Bartlein and Krieger are two of, if not the two top barrel brands currently. Yes, Brux, Bartlein, Krieger, etc are typically better than McGowan. com – Stocks Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Rock Creek, Obermeyer, and MullerWorks; BrunoShooters. There's a lot of good info in the thread Barrels 2020 that you may find interesting or helpful. 243 Win through it and on track to be toasted at 1200 rounds as well. 260 and 6. Going with a known top-level barrel maker, like Krieger or Bartlein, makes more sense in this scenario. No particular reason other than I hear raves about Bartlein and they are doing well in shortrange benchrest. Dec 23, 2008 #11 Personally, have used Shilen, Hart and Bartlein from the US, and a couple from Australia. I've shot a lot of different barrels from bartlein kreiger brux hawkhill criterion shilen x-caliber wilson and mccown. , one . 0000, and a twist consistency carried to the fourth decimal point. Would there be any reason to go with the Bartlein or Krieger and wait 4 to 6 months for it to come in? Help me to make a decision because I am torn between which direction I should take. Obviously it still shoots nice, tight groups in its current state, but I do a good bit of long range target shooting and it definitely likes hot handloads with heavy bullets. Krieger’s single-point cut-rifled barrels are My Krieger AR barrels were the slow ones. Bartlein has the gain twist and left hand stuff cornered. Reactions: Mcgowen vs shilen vs criterion. Switched to Bartlein. Re: KREIGER Barrels VS HART Barrels They are both great quality barrels and there are many other barrel makers as well that produce great barrels like Shilen,Rock creek and the list goes on. 3 Select Match, and 6 Match. They also have a strong Benchrest following. Excellent results with all. I agree with Pa Hog I just wanted to mention that in the short range benchrest realm most shooters use either Bartlein or Krieger. That included two of the top 10 finishers in the PRS and 1 of the top 10 shooters in the NRL. Dude who ran Krieger decided to make barrels faster, made a separate company. Here is why I am asking: - kicking off a custom build - Historically, have seen Kreiger portrayed as the gold standard of cut rifled barrels. Barrels are flawless. Have them on a 22 LR, just ordered a 22 cal 29" 8 twist heavy varmint for a 223 build yesterday, 264 Win Mag, 7-300 Win Mag, and two 300 Win Mags. So the shanks on those would vary from 2. All three are excellent barrels. I've got a couple of TC Dimension rifles with 5R rifling and they are fantastic shooters. The Lilja barrels I've used in 6. They offer a nice package of barrel / bolt combination for AR's. 308 and it was absolutely perfect laser beam had one shilen match (have another 6mm blank waiting) but that was another laser beam . Both Krieger and Bartlein started with approximately the same representation among these guys in 2012, but the stories obviously have diverged since then. Just bought two more and now that makes 6 Bartleins in a row. 0001/-. I put a Shilen on my 300 PRC, they are made here in Tx, and I have a Shilen Select Match barrel on my 7stw and it shoots great, but the others say Kreiger so you have to give them serious weight in your decision. I have one Shilen in a 35 Whelen. The article also includes input from Tony Kidd and Randy Steel of CPC. snipershi In a tactical rig I would go with the match shilen instead of the select because you will never see the accuracy difference in a tactical rifle. I've got it all ready just need a barrel, I know what caliber I want (284) but to be honest I've never heard of a criterion I have Krieger, Shilen, Brux, Bartlein, McGown, and this Benchmark brand of barrels all chambered in 6Dasher between 2-guns (LT & HV-Gun). If you are going to pay for a select shilen or ultra dougy then you are in the price range of a kreiger or rock creek and I would take one of those over shilen or douglas. - . Criterion is a Krieger with a faster manufacturing process, and arguably better longevity. In 20+ Bartlein Krieger Barrels had another strong showing, with 10% of these shooters using one of their barrels. Krieger barrels on several R700 bolt guns in . snipershide. Howdy all, trying to decide between the two barrel brands at Northland for a savage gun I'm building. Rdb496; May 9, 2021; 2 3. Same contour, Knowing both Krieger and Bartlein people are reading and responding does not intimidate me. 75 to 5. So you have the same original ethos for quality that carries over from legit competition grade barrels (Krieger is on par with Bartlein, Lilja, Douglas, etc) I never tested a Shilen in this round up review as you stated above. I've seen these type of questions asked before and the answer is often "either one". Mar 5, 2014 #5 Mar 5, 2014 #5 I like Krieger, but have moved to Bartlein. Button Rifling. Full Member. 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