Granada spindles vs mustang. Installed granada spindles for disk brakes.
Granada spindles vs mustang :thumbsup: Upgrading your suspension to V8 control arms and installing Granada spindles and brakes is what I have done. It's essentially a stock Mustang outer tie rod made with the bigger Granada taper shaft. Looking for the Mustang parts are far cheaper than looking for the Falcon parts. What I said is that 70 Maverick uses the same spindle as 70 Mustang. discbrakeswap. 68-69 disc spindles are unique. On the left is a '73 Maverick drum brake spindle, and on the right is a '75 Granada disc brake spindle. The main advantage would be not buying the MustangSteve $300 brackets. 67 drum and disc, 68-69 drum spindles are all identical, with the exception of the casting numbers. You said you bought Granada's, but if it doesn't look like the one pictured it is something else, as all Granada's had the A 66-69 drum brake spindle which was adapted on 67 Mustang and 66-67 Falcons for disc brakes using a bracket. They are very similar. com 65-66 specific granada swap spindles are good quality peices and the geomtery issues have been eliminated, also a much better deal than the scarebird swap after all is said and one because it comes with all the small parts, calipers, slotted rotors, master cylinder, hoses, etc. The conversation was about brakes, but when he found out I was using Granada spindles on my GT-Fourte build, he mentioned that while many people here use Granada spindles, many are upgrading. 2) mustang vs. It was a long time ago and I don't recall the details but I didn't have to buy anything; I just used some parts from pile "A", some parts from pile "B" and then made spacers to make up the difference. Nov 3, 2009 #29 I compared a granada to a V8 1965-66 mustang drum brake spindle at one time, and there was a significant difference. They would be exact, but there was a bearing change in 70. But you have one more problem. you will need a hardened Yes, as WoodchucK and GT289 has indicated there is a difference in the C5DA vs the C6OA spindles. At that time, I was running 14" steel wheels and hubcaps. Prev. I've read your past posts regarding the four piston Kelsey Hayes stock '65 type calipers vs the floating single Granada caliper. 1967 Falcon 4 door 351C - 70 Mustang 351C Owner built, owner abused. Dropped it 1. This and all future types are used for all engine applications, 6 and 8 cylinder. I worked in vintage mustang shop for 15+ years. This is where the potential bumpsteer issues comes from when these spindles are used on the '65/'66 models. The 70-73 Mustang Disc Brake Spindle (Big Bearing Spindle) can be Bolted on the 65 66 Mustang with Excellent results as well. Go. just use the spindles you have, as they are strong enough unless you are going pro stock style racing There are already kits available that allow the mounting of big brake systems on Mustang and Granada spindles. granada spindle nut kits: These are also not the same for granada and 70-73 mustang spindles. I have the 14" Styled Steel Wheels. Will also accept Granada and Hybrid rotors; K772 upper ball joint taper . SSBC. 65 Mustang V-8 spindles. The basic suspensions in all of those cars are the same, with minor differences in outer tie rods. I went to Oreilly auto parts on line and found thisRotors It shows that the 250 cid straight 6 and the 302 V8 Granadas have the some spindle bearings and rotor and calipers and pads! Parts books have been known to lie but I converted a 6 to a 8 on a For the 67-68 mustang the Granada/Monarch spindles are a bolt on operation that takes about 3 hours. Mustang IIs were all four-lug, regardless of engine or options package. Both have the larger diameter spindle pin, but the upright on the Granada spindle is thicker than the up right of the drum brake spindle. Hey guys, HELP! I've got a 5. 5 to 66 mustang has problems. Want to use them on the Ranchero but I am worried about bumpsteer. 57" pistons would be close in caliper clamp numbers. Granada spindles. dazecars. Spindles Changing from Granada to 71's won't change anything. Both use 11" rotors and single pistons. The 15/16 anti-roll bar from the HD Granada/Versailles and H rated tires and proper wheels are a must. that said however, unless you already have a set of 1970 spindles, or know where a set is, you dont need to bother with trying to find a set. Jump to Latest Follow February's Vintage Mustang Photo Challenge Is Now Open For Entries! 21 - 27 of 27 Posts. ex-Global West GM What is the difference between the 70 mustang spindles and the granada spindles? Is there an advantage to the 70 spindles? I already have a set of granada spindles but can pick up a set of 70 spindles prety cheap. Over the last year I've read a so many posts about Granada spindles swaps, 6 cyl. was a 3,800 lb (+) vehicle. The brakes in my 68 mustang v8 are not working that great. VS Granada Brakes is a serious issue. It's been a while, but I believe the granada unit had a shorter arm, and was either higher or lower than the mustang unit. I have been wanting a relatively straight forward brake upgrade, that The Mustang's 1. I'll help ID the spindles, more than likely have a original mate for Granada spindles need to be retapered to match the Galaxie ball joints. Even the the distance of the rotor is only about half an inch in ward compared to stock thus being able to mount wider tires woo hoo. I figure that the Granada/SN95 system as I describe it is an affordable middle ground that I can offer at a After a recent brake job I learned that my car was converted to Granada spindles presumably as part of a drum to disc conversion back in the 80s. A search of Wilwood's spindle page revealed only 74-78 Mustang 2 spindles. If we are discussing both disc and V8 conversion simultaneously, yes. I've done a lot of research on the subject. ( it was aligned after this upgrade) This seems to be a problem with 65 and 66 Mustangs - track width was narrower than 67 and up The upper bolt hole for the caliper bracket is larger for the Granada spindles but otherwise I believe the 68-73 Mustang brakes fit. I heard a couple bad things from people that pushed cars hard in the corners using Granada spindles so I just didn't want to go there to save less than $100. want disc brakes, building a economy based Mustang, then a Granada setup maybe the way to go. also all drum spindles (including 67 disc) from 67-73 are pretty much the same except that 70-73 (also 69 Boss and some Shelbys) spindles have a larger spindle pin that use heavier duty bearings and a larger tie-rod taper, otherwise Fits 64-1/2 to 66 Mustangs, 60-65 Falcons, Comets (except 1963) into 75-80 Granada, Monarch, Versailles Spindle Fits all 6 cylinder or V8 tie rods. The difference between Granada and 67-73 Mustang spindle vs 65-66 V8 spindle geometry is solely in the terminal position of the steering arm (tie rod mount point). So at the time the difference was the price of the $100 bracket vs the Granada spindle. Fairlane, Granada etc. 68-73 Stangs use the same basic parts. se7en-zero New Member. LOTS of people are running the Granada setup on their Mustangs and related Fords. $80 is a I ran Granada spindles on the mustang for 30 years before switching back to mustang units to go to aftermarket brakes. I have been wanting a relatively straight forward brake upgrade, that minimizes the use of custom parts, and uses stock Ford brake bits in Vintage Mustang Forum. Granada spindles are the popular swap for the Mustangs. That's what I did. It can result in the lower control arm shifting. V8 Mustang or Granada spindles are not a good Are they C8OA Spindles (Original 69 Mustang), DOZA Spiundles (70-73 ), Granada changeovers?, Homemade parts, etc. There The Granada is similar to the 68 Mustang spindle. One of the companies he mentioned was Wilwood. Classic Mustang Forums. I am open to suggestions, but was wondering what everyone else did given the same circumstances. I am trying to put together a big brake kit for my granada spindles on my 1963 Ford Falcon. and the rotors and calipers were shot Parts you will also Steve you can use 64 or 65 Mustang spindles or 74 Maverick spindles unless you are planning on keeping everything as it is. Feb 1, 2004 363 0 17 SF Bay Area. I have two different sets that people often question if they will work on a Mustang. I'm getting ready to do my 67 mustang. Use a 67 mustang master cylinder for a disc/drum. The 2 options above use the spaghetti thin 4 lug spindle. Basically the same spindle, caliper, rotor bearing, etc. In your case, Mustang spindles were originally used on Falcons and would have a casting number of "C5DA-3107-B" and "C5DA-3108-B". Top . If you replace all the suspension bushings front and rear with urethane it will drive very well. Mainly because I could get the Granada spindles much cheaper than the stock '65 Mustang V8 units. He would not sell them separate. Ford lists the rotor diameter at 11 15/16" on the '71 CSRP now makes the “Granada” spindles with th correct 65-66 geometry as well as makes the 65-66 drum/disc big spindles with the correct geometry. But I'm more Daveoxide from the Vintage Mustang Forum has developed a bracket to mount late model Mustang brakes to the Granada spindle. This is the kit I ordered and everything Okay, I had to try them as the long awaited CSRP dropped spindles are still vaporware. 75" rotors, a 4 piston caliper and the disc for the rotor seperates from the spindle hub. For example, small pin spindle 68-69 Mustang uses the exact same brakes as large pin spindle 70-73 Mustang (except for the bearings and bearing races). Drove good until I added low profile 15" wheels, 620 front springs and 1 1/8 front sway bar. I can't see how. The Granada car is built on the Falcon Chassis that was the basis for Falcon, 65-73 Mustang, Maverick, 75-80 Granada and others. You want to find a V8 granada with 5 lung rotors. When was it aligned and by whom? I am not sure about the alignment but I have read about the different Years ago I got a set of granada disk break spindals for another Falcon never installed. Thread starter se7en-zero; Start date Mar 10, 2004; S. The tie rod pin taper is close but not exact- there wouldn't be good integrity. Only the bearings and bearing races would be different. Has anyone else heard of someone installing granada spindles on a mustang II front end clip. As has been stated about the incorrect geometry of the Granada spindles, the incorrect tie rod ends, the bigger hub centers that don't fit the stock wheels, the smaller rotors, etc --all may not be bad. I know i'll need new pads,maybe new bearings,seals,new calipers,new brake lines to adapt from the granada calipers to the hard lines of the mustang, and a adjustable The Granada kit is by far the most economical choice for a Ford type disc brake conversion on a 65-73 Mustang that is missing its spindles, or a 65-66 6 cylinder Mustang. Dan @ Chockostang . Jump to Latest 2K views Blacktopbuddha listed the correct years above for the spindles. So I called Fatman and asked a couple of questions before ordering them. At least, I hope you will, as I am going to do the same thing (although mine are 70 spindles). This is the best way to identify them. Spindle Types (or more properly called steering knuckles). We have tried bleading them. There are a lot of opinions, right and wrong concerning the Granada swap. The Granada system will fit just as well, but the 70-73 disc Mustang system is more year appropriate. Are Granada spindles the same size as Mustang II? I put GM rotors on Mustang II spindles by making spacers. You will need the flex (rubber) brake lines for the new spindles and the tie rod ends. Any input is 1995 Mustang GT Cnv 427 stroker, w/ 400 shot of NOS for fun 1996 Cobra with Kenne Bell 2. If you have manual brakes don't mess with the MC unless you are determined to go power. 1) V8 Spindles C3DA-3108 or C3DA-3107 (off a I have been working on a 1966 Mustang Coupe. 65 M spindles will fit What I'm saying is that the V6, GT or Cobra caliper will bolt to the Granada spindle using the same fabricated piece. We knew we scored with 68-69 spindles, as it was a lot easier Below is a photo of two different sets of spindles I have in my possession. THEY ARE NOT! There is few aspects of the Granada that are like the Mustang. Power steering adapter outer tie rods are available for the driver side. This is correct. rebel65 Member. I have considered looking for some 65-66 spindles and going with a set of SSB brakes for my 65 but read where the 70 and up are much So I have been working on a big brake upgrade for those of us with Granada spindles (should also work with 70-73 disc brake spindles with an added bushing). If the smaller Granada brakes, You can't add on the Correct bigger 69 Mustang Factory disc brake Calipers For some visual comparison, check out this photo of the CPP Corvette-Style spindle and hub assembly vs a traditional mustang II spindle and tapered roller bearing. So it could have been sourced from any of those, but be correct for your car. Ford Mustang Forum 221K members. 68-69 Torino, Fairlane, Montego, Cyclone also use the same stuff. 520# springs. 5 degree inclination. I then went and purchased a Mustangsteve. It is huge and heavy. The bolt pattern is the same as the fox-body Mustangs (with the exception of the 1984-1986 Mustang SVO and 1993 Mustang Cobra, which were 5-lug). The granada does have more bumpsteer than the stock mustang spindle. My first I've got Granada single-piston brakes and spindles on my car, but they never stopped very well. The steering arm of the Granada is a little different compared to 65 spindles. All 67-73 Mustang and Granada spindles have an identical steering geometry that is different from all 65-66 Mustang spindle's steering geometry. You will On the 70 Mustang swap, the stock hard line was in the right place already. Maverick and 71-77 comets share the same upper / lower control The Granada spindle is rumored to be worse? but they also have a different taper on the tie rod end, is there a fix for bump steer on a Granada spindle? Aug 11, 2009 Every year Mustang and the Granada spindle has bump steer issues The tie rod taper on the Granada spindle is the same as a 70-73 Mustang. The Falcon, Mustang, Maverick, and Granada, and their Mercury and Lincoln counterparts, are the same basic car, just with different sheetmetal. Classic Mustang Specific Tech . Check out his article "Granada Big Brake Upgrade, Brackets". Before I pull the trigger, what questions or concerns should I have using Mustang II spindles? is the sheer massiveness. So I picked up a set of Granada rotors and spindles for my 67, decided to go with new calipers since they were all nasty looking on the piston. Urethane spring perches. Stiripping, cleaning rebuilding them, but they just don't seem to be that great. The Tie rod ends would be different. SKU: 100 25009X OEM Mustang II spindle, also available in 2" drop. 00: $60. Jump to Latest 81 - 100 of 130 Posts. 62 Comet wgn-289/AOD/Pdisc 64 Vespa-186cc big bore cyl/expansion chamber/24mm carb/stroker crank Steel Pinto/Mustang II spindles with 7. I personally use the 70-79 Midsize Ford & Merc Spindles. does anyone know if these are similar to mustang II spindles or what? Thanks. YMMV. The original plan was to use the 2" drop spindles(and the drop the rear 1"), but I'm starting to lean towards going with the stock spindles. and V8 cars and printed copies of this and that and thought I had it down so that when I was ready with the cash to go shopping I'd be ready and armed with the info I needed. While I was planning to go with Scarebird's kit and use my original spindles instead of the Granadas, my buddy is building a V8 66 from a six, and needs new spindles anyway. 19 69 non-Boss spindles use smaller tie rod, same as 67-69 Mustang. chetcpo Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:31 am . Classic Tech. Using the original spindles on disc brake conversions is just too easy. They are basicly the same brakes the 70-73 mustang uses. -First, an original Granada or 67-73 Mustang spindle's steering arm orientation is not OE correct for 65-66 Mustang. By Mustang I mean 64-73, and by Granada I The Granada rotors are a one-piece unit. The 245 comes super close to working up front except for the clearnace around the stock style upper control arm. I would use the 76-79 granada, because in 80 they went to smaller spindle (at least thats what I read somewhere). 1907 Views 17 Replies 12 Participants Last post by GSEninja, Feb 13, 2011. Is there a difference in stopping power between the factory Kelsey Hayes disc brakes vs PBR (01+ calipers) with Granada spindles? What are the benefits between the two setups? I’m debating between the two for my 67 with manual steering. to make the drop spindle ream as little as possible from the lower ball joint hole as possible so the spindle sits as high as possible on the lower ball joint stud. Jump to Latest Follow 798 views Thought i would throw some pics up of how i installed some Wilwood 12. If you use '70+ spindles you'll need to change the outer tie rod ends (bigger hole) as well as use new bearings and grease seals for the bigger spindle pin. But if you use the oem spindles it will give you some bump stop sometimes worse then normal. I have a 1968 mustang that has been swapped over to granada spindles and discs and am having nothing but problems with the frt discs constantly hanging up and it gets worse as the temperature goes up, the frt brakes just wont release all 1960-80 Ford, Mercury; Granada Style Disc Brake Spindles; for Mustang, Cougar, Falcon, Comet, Fairlane Brake Conversions. J A forum community dedicated to vintage Ford Mustang owners and enthusiasts. How much of an improvement would be determined mainly from brake pad compound and rotor vane design. Mustang 2 spindles have the rack and the steering in front so granada drop spindles, if they exist, wouldn't work with a mustang 2 setup. Instructions NOTE: 64-66 Falcon may have same tie rods as 65-6 Mustang, or I bought one of the kits that had all new components in it and the bumpsteer was supposedly corrected in the new Granada spindle but the car still had it and needed a correction kit. 7. 5 in vs 11 in for the Granada, but they wont work with the calipers, unless you make your own bracket. Yes, there is more bumpsteer than stock, but nothing you're going to notice unless you REALLY try. 7th Gen Mustang Forum The price is why most do it you get the spindles from a junkyard the rest you should get new from a auto parts store. The Granada hole is a little bigger than the the Mustang hole for the Tie rod ends. This not going to be power disc brakes, just manual. Some granada Spindles have a LARGE lower ball joint taper that IS NOT correct for the 1965 1973 Mustang. 65-66 Mustang, and a third family starting with 66 Falcon and including 67-73 Mustang and 74-80 Mavericks, Granadas, and Monarchs. - Mustang 5-bolt '65-'73 - Maverick 5-bolt all - Mustang SVO '85-'86 - Ranchero '68-'84 - Aerostar, Probe, Bronco II/Ranger to '89 Hudson - all '48-'56 Lincoln - all '70-'72; '80-'89 Mazda - RX7 Turbo, 626, 929, MX6 '86-'89 Making drop spindles out of Granada spindles is very easy, it takes less work to make a dropped spindle than making Vintage Mustang Forum. I even thought about using components of a Wilwood Mustang II/Pinto big brake kit that use a hub that would fit on a Granada spindle. Back to the Is there a difference in stopping power between the factory Kelsey Hayes disc brakes vs PBR (01+ calipers) with Granada spindles? What are the benefits between the two setups? I’m debating between the two for my 67 with manual steering. Granada spindles on Mustang. The basic difference is in the 1/2" extra length in the steering arm, and the tie rod hole taper. in 67 the disc brake settup changed about mid year to a single piston floating caliper, so those spindles are different in so far as they will not accept the earlier caliper mounting bracket without modifying the spindle, and rather substantially at that. Ford Mach-E Forum 15K members. Also refer to www. 99 : When a Mustang is converted to Granada or Maverick disc brakes, sometimes a very distinct rattle is heard when driving the car over even the slightest bumps. The 1965-1966 Mustang steering arm is slightly longer, which means the Until recently, the only source of V8 spindles, both OE and Granada, for early Mustang has been salvage. 5 on 5 bolt pattern, but you must run 15" wheels for disk brakes. I've had 2001 GT calipers on my '65 with Granada spindles since Feb of 2002 without any issues at all. Yes, I'm the Biggest Bitcher of Granada Spindles. 1963 1964 1965 Falcon 1965 1966 Mustang Spindles vs Granada Spindles knuckles Episode 39 Manic Mechanic Are Granada spindles good for 1963, 1964, 1965 Falcon 65 outer tie rods will NOT fit in Granada spindles. I thought it was a good thing to have these spindles until I realized no one makes a bbk. the stock steering you are connecting it to. So I thought I'd try to, at least, get the differences documented for folks doing the V8 conversion. The Wilwood brakes use 11. I have done this and it works great. The 71-73 disc spindle has the larger bearings in both locations. The second Picture, Jonk has shown will be the If you are running wide tires in the front, I would not recommend going to Granada or 67-73 Mustang spindle. If you don't want to go to the trouble of re-engineering the R&P steering it has already been done by Rick Wurth of Wurth It Designs. Manufactured in cast iron like the original 1975-80 Granada The 67 spindles have a different steering arm geometry (same for all 67-73 and also Granada). So I thought I Although the Granada spindle has the same geometry as the 1967-1970 Mustang, it differs from the 1965-1966 Mustang. I'm sure you may know this already but those Granada spindles on your car do not have the correct steering geometry if they are in fact from a Granada. 1 5 of 7 Go to page. This is because on a granada spindle the tip of the spindle (beyond the threads) has a smaller diameter. Mar 10, 2004 On the other question the geometery I'm refering to is the difference in tie-rod mounting point on the Granada spindle vs. Will my spindles on the mustang already, work with the Granada rotors? I noticed with the spindles from the Granada that they had 3 bolt holes for the caliper mount instead of the factory 4 on the The Granada spindles increase bump steer. The car has noticible bump steer. I have made it my business over the last 15 months to get to know the Granada system. Now with these new brackets, people finally have an option to up the stopping ante even more, that are running Granada spindles, without the need to switch back to drum spindles in order to get Cobra front brakes on their early Mustangs/Fords. This will help you determine what you do, Improve the existing system, or change out the entire brakes for other products. New pads and hoses would be about the same. I know that many have used the Granada swap with good success but if you plan to do any fancy mods or lower the car you might be in for the asprin bottle. Edit: Just a bit more info The 70-73 Stangs used the same brake systems. Keep in mind that if you using the Granada spindles you WILL have to get the alignment re- set. You will find them on everything from a Cougar to an LTD and if you want 12" you can find those on the 70 Lincoln Conts 4. Granada discs vs stock. The 67-73 Mustang and the Maverick/Granada type have identical ball joint and steering geometries. The The spindles you can use stock Balljoints for your Mustang. What So I have been working on a big brake upgrade for those of us with Granada spindles (should also work with 70-73 disc brake spindles with an added bushing). 120-6816 (black dynalite 4 piston callipers) 270-7287 (hub assemblies) 300-3099 (rotor adaptors) 160-7103/04 (12. Reason being, there were/Are dealers out there that promoted these "are like Mustang spindles". Jump to Latest Granada spindles on Mustang. That was way too expensive and not as fun as doing it myself. Available with 12. simmsac Discussion Starter Just curious - I've recieved several emails/PM's lately about running Granada spindles with Global West/TCP/Maier/Cobra Automotive control arms or the negative wedge kit or Shelby drop. -Secondly, and more seriously, the steering geometry of the manual steer 6 cylinder steering linkage is seriously different than the V8 version. Keep in mind that OE salvage Granada I can't say for sure without measuring these DISC brake spindles, but I think they are the big bearing 70-73 Spindles---Hopefully not the Granada Spindles- One or the other. I think in 65 is when the spindles became similar to 65 mustang. 5"-2". the '65/'66 Mustang spindles. I sold the Granada brakes on craigslist and then ran an ad looking for drumb brake spindles and hubs. Because of that, there is no factory tie rod application that can be used to mate the Granada spindle to the Mustang P/S. 1970 vs. i would highly recommend the disc brake I do not know of a Granada that came with a V6 in the years that you would want to get rotors and spindles off of. granada spindles are more heavy duty than original mustang spindles, except for the 70-73 spindles, because they have larger spindle pins and tie rods and just generally more meat as well. ChiZ_65 New Member. Wilwood vs. I have done several. The 65 and 66 Mustang power steering outer tie rod is a different size on the driver's side, you will have to purchase a special tie rod that fits the Granada spindle. When I put them on, I followed the recommendations here and put in a "performance type" alignment and they worked fine. If you want your Granada spindles to drop the front of your car you should only ream the lower ball joint hole enough so that the spindle sits high on the lower ball joint stud. These are spindles designed to use the Granada/Maverick disc brake setup. The Cobra caliper bolts right on as well, but doesn't line up with the Granada rotor in diameter. 19 inch zinc Mod and Custom Forum Granada brake question If the Granada spindles are actually from a Granada, then nothing you do will correct the condition you mention above. Shaun from street or track makes a kit, for $2600. Replace your spindles with a set up from CSRP or talk with our man Dan at Chockostang[/QUOTE] I've heard that the geometry can be In the picture - the Granada spindle is on the left and a early Mustang drum spindle is on the right. Any input is Looking at the Ford Granada European service manual shows the Granada front hub spindle is clamped to the bottom of the Macpherson strut, very different to what the USA guys show a Granada front spindle. Anything that a Granada spindle will fit on. They use the same drum spindle. There is also the Granada or 68-73 Mustang disc brake system choice. Started with new Granada rotors, I wanted to make sure I was getting a pair of fairly equal thickness hubs coming from the same factory. I have a set of 1970 brakes and spindles on my 66 coupe. You didn't specify what year mustang you wanted to put them on, but if you are using the Granada calipers, you will need Granada spindles as well. Are these one and the same? Post subject: Granada spindles? Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:01 am . R. These were once plentiful, but are now essentially gone. This infers that the 70 Mustang type disc spindle is appropriate, which it is. '68-73 OEM Disc set-up. Joined: Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:25 am dont remember what year that they are from and I wasnt the one to put them on. You would have to either use Granada Tie rod ends or you can buy Sleaves that Mustang Steve sells to use your Mustang Tie rod ends. I can't find my notes but I will almost guarantee the steering arms vary somewhat as well between Granada and 71-73 disc spindles. For our purposes we will discuss the 65-66 Mustang type, and the 67-73 Mustang /Maverick/Granada type. It will As a side note, will those GM caliper brackets that circle track cars use on Mustang II / Pinto spindles work on Granada spindles? Or are the spindle bolt holes different between Mustang II & Granada? I tend to think that all of this has been explored by now, but just want to make sure before ripping all that stuff out and going to Baer or SoT The Granada car is built on the Falcon Chassis that was the basis for Falcon, 65-73 Mustang, Maverick, 75-80 Granada and others. If you've driven down The brakes are the same. Topic: Granada spindle interchange-ability: SundanceKid Gearhead . This would allow the use of 11 inch We may earn a commission for products purchased through links on this page Hi you'll love having the disc brakes, I do. Both suffer from the identical sub optimal steering geometry for 65-66 on the spindles (correct for 67-69 4 or 5 lug). They normally use a single piston GM caliper. I would like to either put bigger brakes up front or brakes with better stopping power, without having to change spindles. I am into the cobra brakes less then $400 if you count what I sold the Granada's for. 1; 2; 2 of 2 Go to page. com Good luck!! I plan to go with a Shelby drop and 225 tires. I'm getting started to do my Granada disc conversion, and I have two options. Joined: Tue Aug 16 . So that means they are all interchangeable, so I would think. There may be earlier part numbers (C3DA- or C4DA-) cast into the spindles that were used on 1964 1/2 Mustangs. 0 EFI with a T-5 going into my '62 Falcon and want discs up front. Yes, as stated above, the C6 P/N spindle is the 67 type (68-69 used a functionally identical C8 P/N spindle). Even if the bearings were the same, the caliper mounting hardware is only on the Granada type spindle. 65-73 Mustang and related models had 8 I have a '66 Mustang with P/S, 4-Speed TL, Granada spindles and calipers in the front, disc in the rear with a Wilwood 15/16" MC. Using them on a 65-66 Mustang, this will increase bumpsteer, but you will most likely fix this issue with the Baer Trackers. I also ran Granada spindles in the 90s without the bump steer kit and didn’t notice any problems (although my car was near stock height and not lowered. 70 spindles use a larger tie rod that is a little larger than the 67-69 spindle, but smaller than the Granada spindle. I bought a pair of GM metric calipers for about $70 new. spindle vs hub question for Baer kits. Installed granada spindles for disk brakes. May 20, 2003 58 0 0. Vintage Mustang Forum. the www. In regard to the performance of the 65-67 KH type vs Granada, or yep the spindle size was upgraded in 1970. 00: AutoZone: 561720: 2: 77 Granada brake rotors : $32. S. I know that the bearing support on the Granada rotors will not fit through the hole on my wheels. 19 rotors and calipers to my granada spindles. specifically the location for where the tie rod end connects. C6OA will bolt on the same 4 Piston Disc Brakes as used on The balljoint angles and steering arm angles are different on the '67-'70 Mustang/Granada spindles vs. The arms on the Granada spindles are a different geometry than the 64-66 Mustang spindle. 75-77 Mavericks/Comets, and 75-80 Granada/Monarchs uses an even larger outer tie rod mounting hole (same size as later Granada/Maverick disc spindles that is for 64-68 drum brakes as the spindles were the same. com cobra brake conversion. To use a C6OA spindle on 64 65 66 Mustang one has to consider if they will be using factory power steering, or factory manual steering. Manufactured in cast iron like the original 1975-80 Granada spindle, this set replaces the stock disc brake First of all granada spindles are rear steer meaning the tie rods connect to the back just like all the older mustangs. to do the swap. I agree the KH's are superior, but I sold my SSBC kit that came with the car (un-installed) to put these on instead. The caster angle is built into the suspension, not the spindles. Now I've got a donor car available to me with original drum '67 spindles, so I could go back to drums (HA!) or I could put the old K-H 4 piston discs on it. Nov 1960-80 Ford, Mercury; Granada Style Disc Brake Spindles; for Mustang, Cougar, Falcon, Comet, Fairlane Brake Conversions. It seemed to go on just right. Yes, Granada spindle's steering arm is in the wrong plane and the Ackerman angle is slightly off. It's a minor problem, but I never use Granada spindles. Big Brake Upgrade For Granada Spindles. OK suspension Guru's, Granada vs stock spindles Jump to Latest Follow 730 views 1 reply 2 participants last post by GypsyR Apr 19, 2003 I tried to mount a set of granada spindles on it. The regular rotors are 9. The SN95 GT style caliper seems to bolt nicely to the Granada spindle using only a spacer and a small homemade L bracket. The Granada and the Mustang are the same basic car ("platform"). Go Yes, a C5DA 65 66 V8 Spindle, is Identical to the C6OA Spindle-Except for the 1/2" difference in the position of the Tie Rod hole, and the Outer Tie Rod being a 360 vs a 336. I'll go out on a limb though, and say that probably a PBR caliper, Granada spindle and the right rotor would be an advantage over the 65/67 factory setup. 1 Supercharger dynoed at 12psi: makes 412whp/424wtq on E85: 300K miles on stock engine My local junkyard wanted 150 for a Granada spindle, rotor and caliper set. The spindle geometry is incorrect. Come join the discussion Making drop spindles out of Granada spindles is very easy, it takes less work to make a dropped spindle than making the spindle ride at stock ride height. 65" pistons vs PBR 1. I recently replaced my outer tie rods ends with the V8 66 tie rod ends and they worked fine. In a mustang, you can just use Granada outer tie rods to attach them. T-Bird spindles are a bolt in. the PBR swap is pretty Since the Maverick didn't get discs until D4 (1974), and those were the ones used on Granada when it came out in D5 (1975), I'd say your D0 (1970) spindles are the correct upgrade part for your D0 Stang. 65 Mustang strut rods - rubber bushing in front/urethane behind. This can result in "Bumpsteer" issues. Here are the part numbers i used in the conversion. the tie rods went to a std size diameter and stud, which fits into the granada spindles. Cure-Ride shocks. Update Granada spindles are identical to 1970-1973 mustang spindles. You must use the outer Granada tie rods, they will fit the Mustang adjusting sleeves. A guy gave them to me. The special tie rod to mate the two is a custom piece made by Rare Parts, and I've used at least 5 of them in conversions. So The 68-69 Stang spindles and rotors use different bearings, while the rest of the parts are identical. The V8 granada uses an 11 inch rotor, and the V6 uses a 10 inch rotor. Come join the discussion about popular models such as the Mustang, Galaxie, Falcon, Fairlane, Torino 77 Granada Spindles (with backing plates and calipers for core charge) $30. It's what the factory intended and they stop pretty well. Above link has Wilwood brake kits for Granada spindles with "zero offset". The nut is the same but the "castled hat" -- the stamped piece that has the slots for the cotter pin is different. This subtle difference seems to not manifest itself (bumpsteer) unless combined with other front end changes like cut coil So I just put together a kit for the 68-73 Mustang disk spindle using SN95 calipers, modified anchors, 65-73 5-lug drum hubs and the 13" high hat offset rotor I use: Link Seeing as how the Granada spindle is not that much different, You could put '70-'73 [actually, '68-'73] Mustang rotors and calipers on a Maverick/Granada front disc spindle If you drilled the upper Maverick/Granada disc spindle anchor bracket hole out to 9/16", and use the It's got granada spindles and brakes, but still has the 6 cylinder steering components: Based on pictures I saw online of Granada tie rod ends, I was assuming that the new ones I got from NPD would look more like the Here is what I ended up doing. Posts: 1033 From: UT Registered: Feb 2001: posted 02-10-2002 07:36 PM Will Granada spindles interchange with Mustang II spindles? The bearings are the same but will the tie rods and ball joints work? Can I take the Granada brake mount and use it on the Mustang II spindles along This is available for Mustang or Granada spindle applications. What im getting is the front disc brakes from a 76 granada,spindles,calipers,roters,tierod ends,ec. That puts in slightly heavier than a '71 429 Mustang, yet the "Granada" brakes did a capable job on the Lincoln. 70-73 Mustang, 75-77 Mav/Comet, and Granada's were pretty much the same. And, if the bumpsteer kit will correct Granada issues, I like the idea of a beefier spindle. Don't remeber which post is was on bu it looked pretty cool. But I was wondering if the 70-73 According to Dennis from CSRP, the Granada spindle and the 70-73 Mustang spindle being the same forging just very slightly different Very little difference between Granada spindles and stock '70 spindles. It takes a #7 reamer. the 64. We did hundreds of swaps in the late 80's, early 90's, when any other option was expensive. But Csrp makes the spindles with that have the right steering and suspension geometry. I'm What options do we have for a big bearing spindle on the '66 Mustang? Also, I'm running a 225/50/16 BFG R1 front and 245/45/16 rear. larger spindle, larger bearings, longer duration for racing on the trans am circuit. They are different in all 3 axis by about 3/8"-1/2". I was given a brand new pair of 2" drop spindles, as well a used pair of stock Granada spindles. Status Not open for further replies. unlujr usilsw chhtf uxgioo xmyb ipcgt chnwi opiics dkgs kygqbc onsz zatbgr uyac xcyxo ykj