Kpop bad reddit I mostly listen to gg's and only a few bg's so I think i've heard enough. , can honestly find a niche somewhere if they give it a chance. But they are a minority. I’m open to differing opinions though :) lmao turns out you're talking to a blink of four years. Simply a place to have open and critical discussions, opinion, and thoughts on K-Pop idol/group/song/mv etc etc. A lot of the complaints you have with k-pop is heavily influenced by Korean/East/SE Asian culture. Then it blew up, and I saw a really massive decline in the music created. besides, bad lyrics make kpop hilarious and iconic. I was into C-pop back in the day and I could tell you why: 1). Otherwise, you would be seeing the Seunghan thing happening to popstars too. Posted by u/memesterbird - 61 votes and 16 comments kpop awe the absowute wowst fans to evew exist on eawth. he always acted like he never wanted to be there either [friend of a friend said that his practicing was always halfhearted/off key singing/off beat dancing A lot of k-pop certainly emphasizes friendliness, softness and at times androgynous behaviour, which is typically seen as feminine. Bands like BTS and Blackpink (which you cited) have won several awards from groups like the Golden Disc awards (Korean equivalent of the Grammys) and even the Order of Cultural Merit from the South Korean government. Mina and Jeongyeon of Twice have both taken mental health breaks due to anxiety, as has Haseul from Loona and Mingi from Ateez. May 6, 2022 路 Of course, the results are entirely subjective, and shouldn’t be taken too seriously. I'd say you have a very western way of understanding masculinity. they know nothing but onwy kpop. Yes, being an idol is still below being an actor according to many netizens. Does that mean that EVERYONE in K-pop is a bad singer? — Reddit K-Pop (@redditkpop) March 3, 2023. But yeah, wasnt widely used. I am a KPOP fan myself and I am a quite active member in the community on many different platforms. If you like hip-hop, R&B, or EDM, there’s probably something for you in K-pop. Members Online It it just Pop music in Korean. Red Velvet Joy: i prefer her with dark hair, this just looks bad EXO Sehun: red hair on idols is either hit or miss. Innovation (but not too much) : Kpop is all about innovation & typically "weird" styling compared to what western artists wear. When I first got into K-pop, I chose the most handsome or smartest member. Stoicism, endurance and perseverance. Posts about kpop news sites may only be posted as screenshots, not direct links. Nov 18, 2018 路 Share your burning hot takes and unpopular opinions! K-Pop is complete garbage. I don’t understand the huge obsession with Kpop, i mean it wouldn’t be as bad if it wasn’t so popular, and if any fan wasn’t always pushing the band members to date or shipping them and assuming everything means they’re dating. Things like unrealistic beauty is heavily ingrained in East/SE Asian society where plastic surgery may often be given as graduation presents and people like my mom (SE Asian) can recognize even the most subtle of plastic surgery. I think… Baemon will always be compared to new groups lol especially with groups that has similar concept. To be fair the group was called K’pop before it was widely known as Kpop. Members Online It’s not just “k-poop bad” (yes i know most are jokes, but some people who say this are genuine), it’s “toxic k-pop fans bad. K-pop is basically a super sanitized and maximalist version of American/western pop. I believe it is time I pay respects to my username and rant about why K-pop 'music' cannot be considered as 'Music' (I have taken classes in sound production and I have finished all 8 grades of guitar and I believe that I am capable of talking about this topic. Thank you! I feel bad for how K-pop idols are forced to change their natural features because it does not fit in with the beauty standards and even idols who are 5'8" are under 50 kg and that is not healthy. Kpop idols want fans to enjoy their music, non-music content and support their careers. here it is definitely a miss Stray Kids Bang Chan : channie i love you but this just really doesn't look good K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. And yeah, they’re actual name stood for K’population. Kpop is a overrated shit. And this can be from a group you love, stan, or don’t stan. (in real life). K-pop idols (and other celebrities) are public figures; they are covered under different privacy laws from your average citizen. The difference is usually a mod will eventually step in on reddit and delete the original post. 4M subscribers in the kpop community. Share your burning hot takes and unpopular opinions! K-Pop is complete garbage. on top of that, glasses and contacts are often treated as a fashion accessory in Korea and especially in K-Pop Reply reply They probably would have thought the same about K-pop before it became normal in their circles to like it. And ive somewhat found this to be true, as i myself am i stay but i dont engage with the online fandom (not using twitter generally for any purpose) so i get my kpop fandom engagement thru the various kpop subreddits (r/kpop, kpopthoughts, this place) and i do think i miss out on a LOT of stray kids content because of this. the song, and the mv is just so horrific and poorly-produced that i actually enjoy it for that matter lol 782 votes, 78 comments. Some people are just like that. 270K subscribers in the travisscott community. Even if we exclude groups like svt and fromis9 that have obviously always had great vocals before joining hybe, even groups that debuted under hybe aren't particularly bad vocally. Actors also earn significantly more money than idols and also seem to have more prestige with the general public. They never marketed it anyone non-chinese. Not really anymore. This will probably slowly change over time as some of the big K-pop conglomerates are investing even more in the Japanese market and we see more crossover (like all-Japanese groups &TEAM, NiziU, XG, JO1, INI who are known to varying degrees in the K-pop 2. The kpop one at least lectured about how awful kpop is. Different concepts but the same talent. My issue is that much of it feels too fussed over and manufactured. UTOPIA AVAILABLE EVERYWHERE NOW Posted by u/Matthiezzzzzzz - 2,724 votes and 76 comments The tables have turned somewhat because of K-pop going global. We're talking about Baby Monster, ILLIT, YOUNG POSSE and Bad Villain; four new, young and fresh groups that are letting talking about them. But yeah, probably if i did watch kpop shows and lives and stuff i would become parasocial too. 29 votes, 66 comments. Not to mention younger people tend to have a more relaxed view of the internet because the consequences of what you say on the internet are not as bad as when you are an adult. I feel like it's an exaggeration to say "hybe's ruining kpop" and all that. The question is, why are you spending SO much time on kpop when you know it will have bad consequences? Aug 3, 2014 路 These people clearly haven’t seen any live K-pop performances, or maybe they stumbled upon some groups of lesser quality. I'm not sure if melodic is the correct term to use but I couldn't think of anything else. I don’t tell people that I listen to K-pop out of fear of being judged. This sub used to be great because it’s people giving grass touched opinions on Kpop but now it’s just identical to the other subs with fans apparently completely unable to accept that people can indeed think something was poor without being irrational or even thinking about their “faves”. many idols get lasik. It's quite annoying, to say the least. a friend of a friend worked at one of the music stations [such as inkigayo or music bank] and got to meet a lot of idols but there was a man [2nd gen, no longer with the group] had very psychotic behaviors where he lashed out at the staff. Crossposting is not allowed. Recently, I noticed that I have been picking the loudest members (it's all Baekhyun's fault). yes, a lot of idols do have bad eyesight and wear glasses. Just because someone listens to K-Pop only doesn’t mean they have bad music taste. Ive been listening to kpop for more than a decade. Disclaimer: I spend about 0 minutes / day thinking about, or listening to, K-Pop. Chinese singers do worldwide tours all the timeto countries with lots of Chinese people. That doesn't mean all people who like K-pop are toxic, it just is the toxic people have more time to be online to spew the garbage. Many people have parasocial relationships with their news anchors. No matter the song someone will like it because art is subjective, so when we’re talking about objectively bad songs, the only way a song can be judged objectively is through the quality of the production, vocals, etc. The songs that I'm basing my opinion on are songs like Itzy's Mafia in the morning, NCT Dream's Hot Sauce, NCT 127's Gimme Gimme (I know they aren't a 4th gen group but the song fits the bill), WayV's Kick Back, Ateez's I'm the one (this one strictly doesn't fit the bill Mar 14, 2021 路 Recently, kpop companies have been taking a more serious approach to the mental health of their idols, and mental health breaks are becoming more common from artists. Honestly, why do people like this? It wasn't even a big deal for a very long time, just a regular thing in Korea. Here are the 15 top “most annoying” K-Pop fandoms according to this poll — though with each fandom, we’ve included some admirable and sweet examples of fans being supportive of their faves! It's fine to be into kpop. (It is believed that the word Kpop has the first known example in a 1999 billboard article, two years before K’population debuted, tho some same it was before. K-Pop has a wide variety of influences so someone who does come from listening to Pop, Rap, Ballads, etc. This concludes that the kpop are only about looks that attract only girls. You know whenever I ask a person why they like Kpop or bts then they say- They look good. People are like obsessed. ” Also it’s important not to lump these with normal fans of k-pop. BigBang (the biggest group of 2nd gen), BTS (the biggest of 3rd gen and ever), Blackpink (the biggest girl group) are all very rap-heavy groups. Also with the beauty standards I'm talking about the fact that pretty much all K-pop stars have done plastic surgery and it's part of a very dark side of South-Korean culture. And it seems is because they follow shows and youtube videos and many of the content the kpop provides. The K-Pop agencies hold significant power over the careers and personal lives of their artists, often dictating everything from their schedules to their personal relationships. ) Stuff happens with a lot of music, but K-pop is exceptional mostly because of the extreme 'industry side' it has. Does that mean that EVERYONE in K-pop is a bad singer? Not all Kpop is bad, it's just that, perhaps, the ones those people are talking about are bad, if you're open minded, tell me what do you think about this one, it's one kpop song i like, i'd like to add that i listen to metal the most but i like this and some jpop too. I'm a Korean male, I currently live in the US. Redditors seem to have this group mentality that "kPOp BaD". Obsessive fans give K-pop a bad rep and that won’t change until BTS stans stop doxxing people for saying they dislike their music. In addition to music, K-Pop has grown into a popular subculture, resulting in widespread interest in the fashion and style of Korean idol groups and singers. There’s still stigma against the K-pop community. They dance good. With K-pop idols, you're absolutely guaranteed interaction with stuff like fancalls and frequent lives. Members Online To be honest, Kpop reddit and Kpop Quora are just as bad as Kpop Twitter whether people want to admit that or not. (Think grounding vs losing your job. Recently, kpop companies have been taking a more serious approach to the mental health of their idols, and mental health breaks are becoming more common from artists. Heck, as a South Asian, the amount of times k-pop fans have been borderline insensitive to my opinions, culture and race just to 'defend' their idol is appalling. Okay, so I'm no expert on music. I listened to K-Pop for a while. pls go outside. I started listening to kpop in around 2015 and I quickly realised that companies treat a rap like it's a mandatory part of a song and it's so jarring to me. Like Fr though the bar is so low for K-pop Stan’s like I’m sorry 50% of the K-pop idols are not meant to be professional singers馃槶 I’ve seen so many people being defensive over sakura’s vocals but like it’s okay to admit her vocals aren’t stable and not good this is no hate to her whatsoever but she’s just not meant to be a . These people are just the very vocal majority. mentioning them will get people to talks about their idol doesnt matter if its good or bad. Not to say the loudest member isn't handsome of course. Okay so, this is my personal opinion but a lot of the "rappers" in kpop are simply not good. thewe awe points whewe they took it too faw, they even awe wiwwingwy to make fun of othew's deaths- oh, pwus they'we the K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. The K-pop scenario in this period is full of young talents, several groups are taking their seat in this industry, especially for girl groups. Whether that's a good thing is a matter of opinion, but K-pop does have a deeper parasocial aspect. 2. People treat you differently once they learn you listen to it. K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. Moreover the people who listen to kpop are only girls and I haven't seen any boy. they dont cawe about othew peopwe's fucking feewings, they just want to wide kpop dicks ow do anything to satisfy them wike no, fucking accept sad times as pawt of youw wives. I think… Honestly, unless every post or story you make is about K-Pop I wouldn't worry too much. Do not post direct links/ask for direct links to posts being satirized. I would think that Kpop reddit loves to lie about the situation to make him seem worse, especially because no kpop fandom will accept responsibility if they can make up a narrative where it's stays fault. Read here. Aug 11, 2018 路 I don’t understand the huge obsession with Kpop, i mean it wouldn’t be as bad if it wasn’t so popular, and if any fan wasn’t always pushing the band members to date or shipping them and assuming everything means they’re dating. (Reposting this from r/kpopthoughts to r/kpophelp) . Members Online Fight stories of idols that they themselves shared K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. and lastly they will say they sing good. Anyone can be super toxic and just because someone is a k-pop fan doesn't mean they can't as toxic as let's say someone who hates k-pop with passion. K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop… K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. But you can take my opinion with a grain of salt, since I also write fanfics about my favourite k-pop idols. The rest is just haha i make word sound like poop or pee haha Parasocial has become a hot word in K-Pop but they're not the cause directly of negativity (I did my grad school project specifically about k-pop parasocial relationships), but how you interpret and interact with that relationship and the depths of which it goes. In fact, a good chunk of K pop producers are just American pop producers. if you even looked at the poll results, the other half of bad lines are from sm artists, but i thought it was funny that almost all of blackpink's bad lines were lisa's ALONE. I mean dating bans that companies enforce actively play into the whole thing - if idols commonly dated people then it would become more normalised with time but they don't (at least not publicly they don't) so when it's revealed that an idol is dating, it Yes kpop bad, but the meme is annoying already, no creativity. Another controversy in the K-Pop industry is the issue of exploitation and control of artists by their agencies. ) Also, not all K-pop music is 'bad'. basically, what are kpop songs that are so terribly made and unlistenable that you cant bring yourself to hate it? the best example i can find is eternity’s i’m real. are what make kpop styling unique. I agree to that sentiment. Youtube wasn’t around back then and 2) c-pop’s biggest mistake compared to k-pop was that it only marketed to Chinese people abroad. K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop… In my opinion I feel like bad execution is the only way a song can be genuinely objectively bad. The truth is, dives decided to hate him months before, when he merely praised other groups for being nice and greeting well. In fact, the one I'm working on right now is absolute filth. What is your "objective" criteria? You said you thought KPop wasn't "good", but that's your subjective opinion. I will admit, we do have toxic fans. When posting a screenshot of a Reddit comment or post, redact/remove the username to avoid unintended brigading/harassment of individual users. My entire experience with K-Pop is limited to the K-Pop some of my friends occasionally make me listen to, some travels in Asian countries, meals at Korean restaurants, and clicking on Reddit / YouTube suggestions out of boredom or random curiosity. There are many genres to explore. A place to ask your K-Pop questions. Something going viral or being popular isnt really any indicator of skill or how good/bad of a performer an artist is. But let's not forget the many universally masculine traits that permeate the k-pop industry. You can get help with Identifications, Recommendations, Explanations, or Discussions about K-Pop music, artists, genres, content, or industry/cultural issues. K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and… K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. The fact that as far as I am aware no nameable artist in the UK or America has worked together with a K-POP artist (despite many K-POP songs being written entirely in English) tells me that at least in the West K-POP is pretty unpopular and simply has a small but vocal fan-base, I mean as mentioned by OP the fans are incredibly vocal about A lot of the complaints you have with k-pop is heavily influenced by Korean/East/SE Asian culture. Certain pieces such as the half-skirt-half-shorts combo, the one leather sleeve harness thing, etc. Baemon's fanbase is massive among 5th gen, I dare say they are the biggest right now. No matter how "bad" some people think the rap in K-pop is, fans really love it. Loudest I guess I agree to that sentiment. Personally, I find nothing wrong with RPF. I have some kpop tracks in my music player but i don't really watch videos or shows or magazines/images of kpop idols. I think, to add on to this, kpop companies actively encourage parasocial relationships to a greater degree than I think we see in the west. I don’t mean this as a way to start drama or stir hate, I just know that I’ve listened to quite a few kpop songs in my lifetime (probably a small fraction) and I can’t recall a song that is just flatout awful or at least right now I can’t. K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and… 296 votes, 15 comments. Hello fellow K-pop Haters. Do you have a type when it comes to your biases? 2. God thank you. Of course if it would make you feel better and more confident to post on a seperate account, then go for it but I don't think it's such a big deal if the K-Pop memes are just mixed in among other posts. We explore the various challenges and controversies that cast a shadow over Kpop industry's otherwise bright image. Disagree big time. Like even if they are bad on stage or in general are not "skilled", in the end the only thing that matters is if you enjoy it/their music, it is never really about how skilled someone is. Sadly non-kpop life also mirrors a bit of idol life too, with the overworking, health issues/injuries, exploitation etc. hvwx grfx qscrc uylxge eawittw bolya xsunwcs ilw ldgzom gom bvv jev cgxlet vtyk ivlysyg